Is global warming the the population's fault or is it the natural cycle of the earth like the Iceage?

Is global warming the the population's fault or is it the natural cycle of the earth like the Iceage?
Which do you believe and what facts support your standing on the issue?

OK here goes AGAIN

There is an underlying NATURAL cycle of warming/cooling that the planet undergoes.

BUT

Global Warming, in the context it is currently being used, refers to the ADDITIONAL warming caused by the greenhouse gasses we have pumped into the atmosphere in the last 150 or so years.

EDIT: Would CLINT like top produce a link to his claim that most scientists believe it's just a natural cycle. 97% of climatologists, and those in related fields, would disagree with that comment.

That same 97% would also accept that there is a natural cycle, but that we have disrupted it, which also takes out the anwer aboutthe planet never reaching a stable state.

AGW isn't about the planets natural cycles, it's about disrupting them.

The implication that Global Warming is a cycle implies that there is something that will remove Carbon Dioxide (CO2) from the air. That is, the amount of CO2 removed from the air by plants and vegetation will, somehow, increase, or, that the oceans will renew their absorption of CO2.
The facts are that the Oceans reached saturation in 2007 and the number of forest fires and wildfires continues to increase. Surely you know about the fires in Europe, California, Florida, Australia, etc.

Since there is nothing known that will make CO2 split up into Carbon and Oxygen, other than plants, how can its concentration be cyclical?

If you know what will bring down the CO2 concentration, I would be eager to know what that may be -and the world too.

If you think that "because it happend before it will happen again" you may want to know if there were volcanoes or meteors hitting the earth at that time.
To repeat: the question is what is there that will REMOVE the CO2 from the air?
The fact that it happened before may only mean that the ocean water was far from being saturated from CO2 concentration.
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Meteors and volcanoes can produce gigatons of Carbon and sulphur compounds, including CO2, that lead to an increases. albeit temporary, in concentration of Global Warming gas CO2
The fact that gasses seem to have gone away can be explained by the absorption of the oceans and vegetation.

The big meteor that hit Yucatan and the Krakatoe volcano eruption have been studied the most, you will find their studies interesting. The meteor is thought to have even produced the effect of "Nuclear Winter", the dust clouds reduced light and temperature on Earth for a while.

Benjamin Franklin reported on a "Year without summer".
The situation now is different than that, the oceans were found to have reached saturation over a year ago.
Did you read that there is something that all scientists missed and do not know, that will remove CO2 from the air?
The answer: "Somehow, it happened before and will happen again!" lacks credibility. In a thousand years, the forest were once able to remove CO2, long ago. What, do you think, made the vast oil fields and coal concentrations and natural gas found in huge amounts all over the world? They are the remnants of huge forests that absorbed the CO2 from the air.
If not that, what put all that Carbon and hydrocarbons there?

I don't think it matters if it is or not. We are destroying the world in many ways that we know for certain are our fault (pollution, environmental destruction, etc.). By taking action on GW we are both providing insurance against the possibility that it is our fault as well as instituting policies that solve problems that we know are our fault. Fighting GW has benefits beyond that of fixing GW.


The following chart is from climate proxies without tree rings. Tree rings proxies are unreliable obviously since cold wet might equal warm dry for a tree ring width.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warmi...
We didn't cause the fluctuations from previous centuries and it is ignorant assigning human blame on the recent warming which isn't out of line with the past. About the best alarmists can say is that Additional CO2 should increase the temperature slightly. They have to include all sort so various feedback mechanisms and poorly understood assumptions to come up with their worst case scenarios which are nothing short of political fear tactics

natural. they say thats its never been like this and trace it back like 2 thousand years and OH MY GOD but guess what? the earth has been here for 7.5 Billion years, im sure it has gone through stages like this. Im sorry, ive said it.

I believe it is natural with humans contributing slightly. The hole in the ozone layer above africa probably was mostly human made but we've eliminated most cfc's which destroys the ozone layer, so the hole shouldn't get bigger.

I believe it is both. We are a large contributer to Global Warming. But I think that it is also something that happens every now and then

What we are seeing is just natural. I am 78 years old and the climate is not doing anything to make me think it is any thing else.When we have GW or GC we will start breaking 100 year records.

Natural. The geologic record is abundantly clear on this topic. The Earth has never achieved a steady state.

the climate is always changing- just ask a dinosaur.but cleaning up the environment is a good idea.
It has been debated a lot but most scientist agree that is a natural cycle that Earth goes through.


We wouldn't be able to live on this planet without global warming but, human has made this worse